Public Project Meeting - July 15, 2021

Continuing the series of bi-weekly public project meetings, here is the timeline of the meeting held on July 15, 2021,5:30 PM CET. (Below times are on IST)

Meetings are held on the #selenium-tlc channel on Selenium Slack.

Diego Molina 9:00 PM

Here is the agenda proposal:

General project statistics

“se:cdpVersion” is missing in C# and JS

Can all bindings do CDP over Grid?

  • What are the features present in Selenium 4?

Do all bindings implement them

9:01

@AutomatedTester @Puja Jagani @barancev @jimevans @titusfortner @p0deje @harsha509 please tag the ones I forgot

Titus Fortner 9:02 PM

Documentation theme change update

9:03

(I know you’ve been busy)

David Burns 9:04 PM

The python ci will be green today

Diego Molina 9:04 PM

ok, so let’s start

Regarding bugs we had, with @Puja Jagani we fixed the queue issue, so now the Grid runs enough sessions in parallel

9:05

but we still have 3 open issues, mentioned in the agenda

the timeout one has proven to be hard to reproduce, and therefore fix

David Burns 9:05 PM

I was able to reliably recreate the timeout issue. We were hitting issues in chrome that makes us think chrome is breaking

Diego Molina 9:06 PM

really? The original issue is reported with Firefox

David Burns 9:06 PM

Well, I am getting the timeout message, like with Firefox, with chrome 91

9:07

And it’s like the browser tab has hung/crashed and it manifests

@Puja Jagani has the script and I will help reduce if I can

Simon Stewart 9:07 PM

I need to do some rework of NetworkInterceptor to allow everything to be intercepted

9:08

And I think https://github.com/SeleniumHQ/selenium/issues/9594 is fixed by https://github.com/SeleniumHQ/selenium/commit/0795e78559924be1b69b4c8051f5185f289a4268 #9594 Hub reporting no available nodes after a few hours https://github.com/SeleniumHQ/selenium|SeleniumHQ/seleniumSeleniumHQ/selenium | Apr 8th | Added by GitHub

Diego Molina 9:08 PM

I think @Puja Jagani saw the issue this morning, and she said she was having a look

Simon Stewart 9:09 PM

Darn it. I thought we had it fixed

Though we don’t handle the case automatically. I manually tweaked things to make that work

David Burns 9:09 PM

Shoutout to Puja for looking at ALL THE THINGS

Simon Stewart 9:10 PM

+1000

Diego Molina 9:11 PM

aside from those two, now looking into the IE issue with Grid\

as the Grid is sending and invalid JSON to the IEServer

Jim Evans 9:12 PM

um, se:cdpVersion was implemented in .NET in f10cb89

Simon Stewart 9:12 PM

Woot!

Diego Molina 9:12 PM

great, I will update that item :tada:

on the client side, we still need to find time to build the feature parity doc

9:15

Aside from those items, I can give an update on the new (or reworked) website

9:16

I’ve been spending 1-2 hours per day, for now I am only building the website as it is, not digging into the docs yet

Titus Fortner 9:16 PM

“digging into the docs” == “updating the docs theme” ?

Diego Molina 9:16 PM

so, everything below the about menu is already implemented

Titus Fortner 9:16 PM

or writing the docs

Diego Molina 9:17 PM

and I still need to create pages for these links

Titus Fortner 9:18 PM

that all looks great!

Diego Molina 9:18 PM

to bring context, our website is made from two different Hugo themes, glued together during the build process and a few hacks in between

I’ve found https://www.docsy.dev/ a good alternative since it offers a good theme that can contain both things in one

9:19

this requires to recreate our website using the docsy theme, this part is around 60% done then we need to migrate the existing docs into the new theme

9:20

migrating the docs could be done as a task of copying and pasting or we could see it as a chance to reestructure and organise the existing content, and adding a few things more

9:21

if we want to reestructure, it would be nice to see proposals (like a global TOC with brief descriptions of each item)

9:21

then we can reuse what we have currently, and add what is missing

Titus Fortner 9:22 PM

So code snippets would look like this: https://gist.github.com/harsha509/e690dd2c72f1f5c5785be4c8a47c87fd

Simon Stewart 9:22 PM

Lift and shift first, rework second

Diego Molina 9:22 PM

code snippets is an implementation detail

Simon Stewart 9:22 PM

(That is, let’s open the door to contributions first, then figure out how things should be shaped)

Titus Fortner 9:22 PM

I get it’s implementation

9:23

but that’s the piece I can help with :slightly_smiling_face:

Diego Molina 9:23 PM

right now they look similar to that, so it could be a matter of adjusting things

9:24

ideally, the future for code snippets is to render code stored in GitHub, so we can execute it in GitHub actions for example

Titus Fortner 9:25 PM

I guess the question I had about it (what I tried to figure out a few months back and failed) is if there’s a way to point to a repo like you & Christian built for Docusaurus :smile: (another implementation detail) But… there’s nothing preventing us from writing that code now and figuring it out later

David Burns 9:25 PM

I like rust for this reason… when you run tests it also tests the doc snippets

Titus Fortner 9:25 PM

@p0deje implemented that for Ruby

9:26

it’s really neat

I’ll try to find time to propose something here and try to get feedback from people smarter than I am about these things https://seleniumhq.slack.com/archives/CBH302726/p1626364266427200

Diego Molina

if we want to reestructure, it would be nice to see proposals (like a global TOC with brief descriptions of each item) Posted in #selenium-tlc | Today at 9:21 PM | View message

Diego Molina 9:28 PM

all WIP is committed, so if someone wants to have a look, please check https://github.com/SeleniumHQ/seleniumhq.github.io#wip-moving-to-hugo-docsy-theme

SeleniumHQ/seleniumhq.github.io Official Selenium website and documentation Website https://selenium.dev/

Titus Fortner 9:29 PM

Nice work on all of that

Simon Stewart 9:29 PM

Agreed. Excellent work, @diemol. Thank you

Diego Molina 9:29 PM

hopefully I can have the site migrated in a couple of weeks, then we have focus on the docs

9:30

I do not have any more topics, does anyone have something else?

Titus Fortner 9:31 PM

Hopefully I’ll have all my ${paidWork} code in a good place at that point to take a break

9:32

I also promised the chromedriver team that I’d help fix up their Ruby code

Lots of things to update

9:33

Right now I’m busy updating all of my Java test examples from JUnit 4 to JUnit 5 thanks to @Puja Jagani

Diego Molina 9:36 PM

ok, so it seems we are done with today’s public meeting, thank you everyone!

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